B16A JDM OBD0, want a s300 on a obd1 ecu, which ecu ?

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B16A JDM OBD0, want a s300 on a obd1 ecu, which ecu ?

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Hi guys..

I have a JDM OBD0 B16A that orginally was running a PR3.
Upgraded to a p28 running a s200...

Now I want to upgrade to a S300 and want to know which ecu is the best choice ? My s200 on the p28 is being sold...

So what is the best choice ?
-p28 or p06 or p30?

I guess a big question is if I want to use the factory knock sensor ?

thanks for all the help
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It has to be an ecu...the choice is up to you...if you want knock control, you need an ecu that supports this. There is a complete list of the ecu's at: http://www.hondata.com/ecus.html
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Post by camshaft »

Thanks Spunkster

I was told that the knock control circuit was calibrated to each engine type. So for a B16A using a P30 would be the ecu and using a P72 won't be a good idea.

Then again the stock knock control was for a stock engine. And that keeping it wasn't the best idea on a modified engine. And using a aftermarket system would be a better idea.

But I think my biggest question was...
So if I get a P06 how much more is it going to cost to have it upgraded so it does Vtec.
Compaired to if I just purchased a P28 that has Vtec already.

thanks
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Hondata does not convert non-vtec ecu's to vtec.

I have the complete list of the resistor differences between knock boards. I personally have 3 b-series cars, one turbo, one supercharged and one NA...all using p72 equivalents with the knock sensors enabled.
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Would you be willing to share the resistor differences?
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Thanks Spunkster

So with a S300 install on a P06 the regular install is done http://www.hondata.com/s300socketing.html

And the P06 will be able to activate vtec if my wiring to the ecu is correct?

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Spunkster wrote:Hondata does not convert non-vtec ecu's to vtec.

I have the complete list of the resistor differences between knock boards. I personally have 3 b-series cars, one turbo, one supercharged and one NA...all using p72 equivalents with the knock sensors enabled.
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No, a p06 is non-vtec and will not activate vtec.
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Knock Board resistor locations:

(All resistors are 100 Ohms - Brown, Black, Brown, Gold)

US P61 - None
US P30 - R15
US P72 - R11, R15, R16
JDM P30 - R12, R15
JDM PR3 - R15 (OBD1)
JDM P72 - R11, R15, R16
JDM P13 - R15
JDM P14 - R15
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Post by scottishpol »

Thanks spunkster, I have been trying to find out the different locations for a while now. Greatly appreciated(sp?).

Sorry for jacking your thread camshaft.
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Spunkster wrote:Knock Board resistor locations:

(All resistors are 100 Ohms - Brown, Black, Brown, Gold)

US P61 - None
US P30 - R15
US P72 - R11, R15, R16
JDM P30 - R12, R15
JDM PR3 - R15 (OBD1)
JDM P72 - R11, R15, R16
JDM P13 - R15
JDM P14 - R15
Spunkster, by this would you ,mean that by removing or adding resistors to the locations would change the calibration of a knock board?

i.e. re-calibrating my p72 knock board to that of a P13 H22A spec board?

or can i simply swap knock boards for the same effect?
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Masta_Cutz wrote:
Spunkster wrote:Knock Board resistor locations:

(All resistors are 100 Ohms - Brown, Black, Brown, Gold)

US P61 - None
US P30 - R15
US P72 - R11, R15, R16
JDM P30 - R12, R15
JDM PR3 - R15 (OBD1)
JDM P72 - R11, R15, R16
JDM P13 - R15
JDM P14 - R15
Spunkster, by this would you ,mean that by removing or adding resistors to the locations would change the calibration of a knock board?

i.e. re-calibrating my p72 knock board to that of a P13 H22A spec board?

or can i simply swap knock boards for the same effect?
What would the resistors need to be for a usdm h22 motor using p72?
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