K20a Toda A3 Cams Base Map Needed Please

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D@nCeR
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K20a Toda A3 Cams Base Map Needed Please

Post by D@nCeR » Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:30 pm

Hey Guys

ive had my car mapped at 2 seperate places in the North East where i live.. and both have turned out to be horror stories!

now i know because of the cams i have i cant use a 0 degrees cam angle.. no idea why.. or what will happen if i did.. but ive been told NO!

what i need is a lot of help.. and someone with loads of patients to help me map my car Myself!

Mods List:

Gruppe M
Hondata KPRO
Toda A3 Camshafts
Toda 4-2-1 Manifold
RBC Inlet Manifold
Standard Injectors
AEM Fuel Rail
J's Racing 65mm Large Throttle Body
Spoon B-Pipe
Spoon N1 Backbox

so if any of you gurus have the time and patients to help me out, i would be very gratefull!

Thanks In Advance

keto06
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Post by keto06 » Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:38 pm

The IPS Race cams run 0 cam angle, I dont know why you cant...

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Post by D@nCeR » Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:44 pm

keto06 wrote:The IPS Race cams run 0 cam angle, I dont know why you cant...
well as i say i have no idea why i cant.. the last place i took my car to get tuned said i shouldnt use the 0 degrees.. this may be completly wrong..

i shall do some research into Toda cams..

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Post by keto06 » Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:45 pm

Good idea :)

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Post by D@nCeR » Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:56 pm

well ive managed to find the cams on Toda's site..

http://www.toda-racing.co.jp/en/product ... shaft.html

these are mine..
Angle (Valve Lift)
♦14111-K20-03A - Intake 245(9.2) / 295(13.0) / 240(8.7)
♦14121-K20-03A - Exhaust 240(8.9) / 290(12.5) / 235(8.4)

doesnt say anything about Cam angles.. all it does it say is:

♦Programmable ECU with tunable VTC required. Customers discretion required on selecting an ECU.

keto06
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Post by keto06 » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:05 pm

http://www.intrinsicperformance.com/products.html

Find the IPS cam closest to it and see if there is a corresponding calibration to start with.

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Post by D@nCeR » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:16 pm

From what i can see the IPS-K2 Cams are the closest..

i really wish i could get my map off the ECU to see what its like..

keto06
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Post by keto06 » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:17 pm

is it locked?

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Post by D@nCeR » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:21 pm

unfortunatly, yeah or if its not its that old its just crashes K-Manager when i try to view it

keto06
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Post by keto06 » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:53 pm

well you can try the k2 map and see how that goes.

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Post by D@nCeR » Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:10 am

whats the worst that could happen? i cant make it much worse than it is..

and am I leaving this in open loop and datalogging?

keto06
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Post by keto06 » Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:52 am

yessir.

cranny
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Post by cranny » Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:27 pm

keep a close eye on the A/F ratio and knock count.

keto06
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Post by keto06 » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:17 am

This is true.

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Post by D@nCeR » Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:08 am

ok chaps sorry for the long delay.

ive been busy at work :P

i havent got round to putting the new base map on the car.. simply because im scared of what will happen, and seen as this is my daily driver to and from work.. and i have no way of putting the map thats on now back on if this goes pairshaped..

is there any reason why i have been told i cant use a 0 degrees cam angle?

how long do you need a datalog for?

and is there any other settings i should use first off so i dont melt my engine lol!

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