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D16Z6 supercharged running very rich

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:26 am
by zone_nord
Please help,

car setup:
rebuilt d16z6 engine
jackson racing supercharger with 6psi pulley
rc440 12 ohm injectors
hondata s300

Loaded this map: D16supercharger 12 ohm 440 injectors
Car runs very lean: 11.61 AF at idle

What should I do?

*not driving the car like this
**i just want to be able to run the car safely until break in is over and go to get it tuned

please help
thank you very much

Re: D16Z6 supercharged running very lean

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:34 am
by zone_nord
i think i'm wrong and the car is actually running very rich...

Re: D16Z6 supercharged running very lean

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:38 am
by Spunkster
Have you talked to your tuner to see if they can help you get it running safely until you get it tuned?

Re: D16Z6 supercharged running very lean

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:04 am
by zone_nord
yeah i'm waiting for an answer...
it's not safe to run the car with this a/f right?
(2000 rpm max anyway)

Re: D16Z6 supercharged running very rich

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:17 pm
by Spunkster
impossible to say from just a screenshot

Re: D16Z6 supercharged running very rich

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:19 pm
by keto06
very little information here.

First the car is not warm yet (ECT temp) so it may just be compensation values.

Also the map is the timing table, not the fuel one.

Re: D16Z6 supercharged running very rich

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:27 am
by zone_nord
sorry, big noob here
here is a datalog

Re: D16Z6 supercharged running very rich

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:08 am
by Spunkster
Do you have a wideband?

Re: D16Z6 supercharged running very rich

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:57 am
by zone_nord
no, stock sensor
i just want to be able to run the car at 2000-2500 rpm max then get it to the tuner

Re: D16Z6 supercharged running very rich

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:30 am
by Spunkster
You cannot get an accurate reading of AF using a narrowband sensor. You need to get tuned if you want to be sure it is safe.

Re: D16Z6 supercharged running very rich

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:03 pm
by zone_nord
right so i need to go to a tuner with my car on a platform, get it tuned, break in the engine, after 1000-1500 km go to the tuner again for the full tune
the price for a tune around here is 3-400 euros, nobody wants to look at my car now without charging for a full tune witch they can't do if the engine is rebuilt with 0 km.
so yeah, great.
thank you anyway.

Re: D16Z6 supercharged running very rich

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:27 pm
by Spunkster
tuning it should be a good break in.

Re: D16Z6 supercharged running very rich

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:04 am
by zone_nord

Re: D16Z6 supercharged running very rich

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:33 am
by zone_nord
Got the Innovate MTX-L installed today
from the installation instructions provided I learned that I need to connect the yellow wire (analog 1 out) from the gauge to an analog input on the s300 so I did it on a0 (red wire).
From the s300's manual I see that I need to connect it to the D10 ELD pin on the ECU
I'm confused now
Can you please clarify that for me?
thanks

p.s. my stock sensor is not installed anymore and I get "sensor heater error" and check engine light on

Re: D16Z6 supercharged running very rich

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:41 am
by Spunkster
To run in closed loop with a wideband signal you will need to use one of the ECU inputs for the wideband such as D10.

http://www.hondata.com/help/smanager/wi ... b=wideband

You will need to disable the O2 heater error.