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Mugen RR

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:38 pm
by raptor15
Hi one of my customers has a original FD2 Mugen RR. I would like to supply him with a FP. But he had a few questions that i want to clarify before i proceed with the tune and the sale.

1) If he was to "return ECU to stock" would it flash back the original map that came on the car? or a stock fd2r map?
2) is there any known issues that will come up such as "electronic power steering" malfunction indicator coming on or incorrect speed on the dash?
3) Which FP will work with the car? FP-SI-INT?
4)Which calibration would be best to start of with?
5) The honda dealership here will not be able to flash the VIN to the ecu if the VIN is not already flashed. The car was privately imported from japan.

I hope you can give me some good feedback, i have tuned a few FP's before in Malaysia and had minimal problems, but now i have moved to sri lanka and we don't have much resources if things start to go wrong...

cheers

Re: Mugen RR

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:21 pm
by Hondata
What ECU does the Mugen RR use? If not stock, it is not supported.

Re: Mugen RR

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:26 pm
by Spunkster
What is the part number of the ECU?

Re: Mugen RR

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:53 pm
by raptor15
The customer is bringing the car to me on saturday. I will check and get back to you

Re: Mugen RR

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:21 pm
by august77
raptor15 wrote:Hi one of my customers has a original FD2 Mugen RR. I would like to supply him with a FP. But he had a few questions that i want to clarify before i proceed with the tune and the sale.

1) If he was to "return ECU to stock" would it flash back the original map that came on the car? or a stock fd2r map?
2) is there any known issues that will come up such as "electronic power steering" malfunction indicator coming on or incorrect speed on the dash?
3) Which FP will work with the car? FP-SI-INT?
4)Which calibration would be best to start of with?
5) The honda dealership here will not be able to flash the VIN to the ecu if the VIN is not already flashed. The car was privately imported from japan.

I hope you can give me some good feedback, i have tuned a few FP's before in Malaysia and had minimal problems, but now i have moved to sri lanka and we don't have much resources if things start to go wrong...

cheers
Hi,

Please do not use the Mugen ECU, or else you will regret!! Coz RTS, will only flash an equivalent FD2R map, and not the Mugen map in the original Mugen ECU.

August

Re: Mugen RR

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:41 pm
by engjoo
august77 wrote:
raptor15 wrote:Hi one of my customers has a original FD2 Mugen RR. I would like to supply him with a FP. But he had a few questions that i want to clarify before i proceed with the tune and the sale.

1) If he was to "return ECU to stock" would it flash back the original map that came on the car? or a stock fd2r map?
2) is there any known issues that will come up such as "electronic power steering" malfunction indicator coming on or incorrect speed on the dash?
3) Which FP will work with the car? FP-SI-INT?
4)Which calibration would be best to start of with?
5) The honda dealership here will not be able to flash the VIN to the ecu if the VIN is not already flashed. The car was privately imported from japan.

I hope you can give me some good feedback, i have tuned a few FP's before in Malaysia and had minimal problems, but now i have moved to sri lanka and we don't have much resources if things start to go wrong...

cheers
Hi,

Please do not use the Mugen ECU, or else you will regret!! Coz RTS, will only flash an equivalent FD2R map, and not the Mugen map in the original Mugen ECU.

August

Does that imply during the RTS process, the stock map comes from the Hondata unit ?

Re: Mugen RR

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:43 pm
by engjoo
raptor15 wrote:Hi one of my customers has a original FD2 Mugen RR. I would like to supply him with a FP. But he had a few questions that i want to clarify before i proceed with the tune and the sale.

1) If he was to "return ECU to stock" would it flash back the original map that came on the car? or a stock fd2r map?
2) is there any known issues that will come up such as "electronic power steering" malfunction indicator coming on or incorrect speed on the dash?
3) Which FP will work with the car? FP-SI-INT?
4)Which calibration would be best to start of with?
5) The honda dealership here will not be able to flash the VIN to the ecu if the VIN is not already flashed. The car was privately imported from japan.

I hope you can give me some good feedback, i have tuned a few FP's before in Malaysia and had minimal problems, but now i have moved to sri lanka and we don't have much resources if things start to go wrong...

cheers

Based on my experience with the flashpro, I think you should keep your Mugen ECU untouched.

Re: Mugen RR

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:34 pm
by august77
engjoo: Yes, when performing to RTS, the stock map will be from Hondata.

The Mugen ECU uses the same ECU as the FD2R.. so, you should be able to reflash it using FlashPro.

As the Mugen ECU on the RR is limited and hard to come by... I would leave the Mugen ECU alone.

Re: Mugen RR

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:01 am
by engjoo
august77 wrote:engjoo: Yes, when performing to RTS, the stock map will be from Hondata.

The Mugen ECU uses the same ECU as the FD2R.. so, you should be able to reflash it using FlashPro.

As the Mugen ECU on the RR is limited and hard to come by... I would leave the Mugen ECU alone.
Goodness. How would I know if my version of ECU is receiving the correct version of the stock map!

Re: Mugen RR

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:11 am
by august77
engjoo... don worry. The Hondata RTS map will work on your car.

Re: Mugen RR

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:42 pm
by raptor15
So what other solution does HONDATA have for the MUGEN RR that will not compromise the stock program?

Re: Mugen RR

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:47 pm
by Spunkster
Spunkster wrote:What is the part number of the ECU?

Re: Mugen RR

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:06 pm
by civicRSA
raptor15 wrote:Hi one of my customers has a original FD2 Mugen RR. I would like to supply him with a FP. But he had a few questions that i want to clarify before i proceed with the tune and the sale.

1) If he was to "return ECU to stock" would it flash back the original map that came on the car? or a stock fd2r map?
2) is there any known issues that will come up such as "electronic power steering" malfunction indicator coming on or incorrect speed on the dash?
3) Which FP will work with the car? FP-SI-INT?
4)Which calibration would be best to start of with?
5) The honda dealership here will not be able to flash the VIN to the ecu if the VIN is not already flashed. The car was privately imported from japan.

I hope you can give me some good feedback, i have tuned a few FP's before in Malaysia and had minimal problems, but now i have moved to sri lanka and we don't have much resources if things start to go wrong...

cheers
Get a new ecu and keep your Mugen ecu untouched.

Re: Mugen RR

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:08 am
by raptor15
so K-Pro? i still have not checked the ecu part number

Re: Mugen RR

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:50 am
by august77
raptor15 wrote:so K-Pro? i still have not checked the ecu part number
K-pro will not be a plug and play solution for Mugen RR as K-Pro works on DBC only..

What civicRSA is saying, find another ECU from a DBW Civic and use that as the ECU in the Mugen RR for reflashing instead.