Best Base Map Calib. for New Intake Takeda
Best Base Map Calib. for New Intake Takeda
Car:
2017 Civic Hatchback Sport CVT running 6+PSI basemap.
I pre-ordered this new intake from Takeda:
https://afepower.com/afe-power-56-10008 ... ake-system (Stage 2 Intake)
It is very different than the other CAI they have released for it already - https://afepower.com/afe-power-tm-1024b ... ake-system (Momentum Intake).
I know with the momentum intake, Hondata suggests just running the regular maps since the intake is sitting in an airbox that is very similar to the stock intake so airflow will not change much.
However, this new Stage 2 intake is much more open and will definitely change (increase) the airflow. It does still work with the factory air redirection pieces mounted to the top of the hood, but as you can see there is a lot more exposed media on the Stage 2.
Which basemap do you recommend for this intake? In design, it seems pretty similar to the Mishimoto intake and I see there is a canned basemap for that modification, but any guidance anyone can provide will be greatly appreciated. I want to make sure I am utilizing any gains this piece can provide and that I do not run too lean with the potentially added airflow. I don't want to stray too far from the canned tunes provided by Hondata because I want to keep everything as safe as possible.
2017 Civic Hatchback Sport CVT running 6+PSI basemap.
I pre-ordered this new intake from Takeda:
https://afepower.com/afe-power-56-10008 ... ake-system (Stage 2 Intake)
It is very different than the other CAI they have released for it already - https://afepower.com/afe-power-tm-1024b ... ake-system (Momentum Intake).
I know with the momentum intake, Hondata suggests just running the regular maps since the intake is sitting in an airbox that is very similar to the stock intake so airflow will not change much.
However, this new Stage 2 intake is much more open and will definitely change (increase) the airflow. It does still work with the factory air redirection pieces mounted to the top of the hood, but as you can see there is a lot more exposed media on the Stage 2.
Which basemap do you recommend for this intake? In design, it seems pretty similar to the Mishimoto intake and I see there is a canned basemap for that modification, but any guidance anyone can provide will be greatly appreciated. I want to make sure I am utilizing any gains this piece can provide and that I do not run too lean with the potentially added airflow. I don't want to stray too far from the canned tunes provided by Hondata because I want to keep everything as safe as possible.
Re: Best Base Map Calib. for New Intake Takeda
You may use +6 / +9 basemap but mind your STRIM and LTRIM. If you are running rich or lean, you need to calibrate your AFM.
Re: Best Base Map Calib. for New Intake Takeda
Here are a few topics and guide to get you started
viewtopic.php?t=21337
https://www.hondata.com/help/flashpro/i ... m_flow.htm
viewtopic.php?t=21337
https://www.hondata.com/help/flashpro/i ... m_flow.htm
Re: Best Base Map Calib. for New Intake Takeda
thank you sir!NikkoPH wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:51 am Here are a few topics and guide to get you started
viewtopic.php?t=21337
https://www.hondata.com/help/flashpro/i ... m_flow.htm
Re: Best Base Map Calib. for New Intake Takeda
If I take a datalog today and attach the XY graph of my AFM.v vs. S.TRIM, will you be able to help me take a look at it and see if it needs some adjusting? It's just the stock airbox on there now but I want some practice and guidance for when I do this for my intake. I would really appreciate it.NikkoPH wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:51 am Here are a few topics and guide to get you started
viewtopic.php?t=21337
https://www.hondata.com/help/flashpro/i ... m_flow.htm
Re: Best Base Map Calib. for New Intake Takeda
Yes i maybe able to find time doing that when i get home.Emount91 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:21 amIf I take a datalog today and attach the XY graph of my AFM.v vs. S.TRIM, will you be able to help me take a look at it and see if it needs some adjusting? It's just the stock airbox on there now but I want some practice and guidance for when I do this for my intake. I would really appreciate it.NikkoPH wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:51 am Here are a few topics and guide to get you started
viewtopic.php?t=21337
https://www.hondata.com/help/flashpro/i ... m_flow.htm
Please also refer to my thread
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=22524
I also don't want understand what i was trying to do until i got help from a member here, admins and also civicx.com
I
Re: Best Base Map Calib. for New Intake Takeda
NikkoPH wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:39 pm
Yes i maybe able to find time doing that when i get home.
Please also refer to my thread
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=22524
I also don't want understand what i was trying to do until i got help from a member here, admins and also civicx.com
I
I attached 2 datalogs: 1 has mostly highway spirited driving, the other has mostly city regular driving.
I also attached the current calibration I ran these datalogs on.
Here are the tables:
ShortTermFT on Spirited Highway Datalog: LongTermFT on Spirited Highway Datalog:
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Re: Best Base Map Calib. for New Intake Takeda
NikkoPH wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:39 pm
Yes i maybe able to find time doing that when i get home.
Please also refer to my thread
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=22524
I also don't want understand what i was trying to do until i got help from a member here, admins and also civicx.com
I
And now the other 2 tables
ShortTermFT on Regular City datalog:
LongTermFT on Regular City datalog: Thanks , I really appreciate this help. This is one of the best communities I've been apart of for guidance.
If you think it's easier, you can PM me instead but I'm sure there are other people curious.
Re: Best Base Map Calib. for New Intake Takeda
I wonder why your is showing data when you choose AFM.v
In my case i have to choose AFM only to get a graph
Can anyone answer this?
In my case i have to choose AFM only to get a graph
Can anyone answer this?
Re: Best Base Map Calib. for New Intake Takeda
Si vs. Sport? Not sure on that one.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but it looks like my upper AFM trims looks to be pretty spot on, it’s the lower half of the AFMs that seem a little rich (I think I’m getting this right)? Or are those numbers saying it’s lean?
Re: Best Base Map Calib. for New Intake Takeda
Looks like from 1.5v to 2v you are running rich, you can start off by adjusting -5.
Then datalog again
Re: Best Base Map Calib. for New Intake Takeda
And I would just take the numbers in the table in that range and multiply them by 0.05 and take the number down by that much?NikkoPH wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:18 pmLooks like from 1.5v to 2v you are running rich, you can start off by adjusting -5.
Then datalog again
Re: Best Base Map Calib. for New Intake Takeda
Adjusting if pretty straight forward, highlight the range, right click and click adjust, input -5 on the first cell. it should adjust it automatically by -5%
Re: Best Base Map Calib. for New Intake Takeda
I figured I was overcomplicating it lmao. Thank you so much dude, youre the man!
Going to make the adjustment now, upload the tune, then datalog for 15 minutes. I'll post the new tables up ASAP.
Going to make the adjustment now, upload the tune, then datalog for 15 minutes. I'll post the new tables up ASAP.