Which wideband O2 kit works best with my Hondata 4b?

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turbosi92
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Which wideband O2 kit works best with my Hondata 4b?

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I am looking to get one very soon. I have hear FJO or tech edge for the money. Any others? I just want to know what works best with the hondata plain and simple.

Thanks in advance.
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Which wideband O2 kit works best with my Hondata 4b?

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I have the techedge kit. I love it. You can even get it assembled now with a case and everything. You can't beat the price and it seems to work great. It agrees with the dyno dynamics wb on the dyno that I go to.
It was easy to interface, I just took the connector off of an old O2 sensor for my car and connected it to the wideband. It's plug and play although you do have to set up the voltage->lambda mapping in the prefs.

-Jeremy
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Re: Which wideband O2 kit works best with my Hondata 4b?

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jag wrote:I have the techedge kit. I love it. You can even get it assembled now with a case and everything. You can't beat the price and it seems to work great. It agrees with the dyno dynamics wb on the dyno that I go to.
It was easy to interface, I just took the connector off of an old O2 sensor for my car and connected it to the wideband. It's plug and play although you do have to set up the voltage->lambda mapping in the prefs.

-Jeremy
HOw much did you get yours for? Where did you get it?
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Post by jag »

I got it for $144 shipped from techedge in australia. The sensor was about $130. So, about $300 total after I bought a cables for it.

-Jeremy
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Post by turbosi92 »

jag wrote:I got it for $144 shipped from techedge in australia. The sensor was about $130. So, about $300 total after I bought a cables for it.

-Jeremy
Anyway you can get me the part numbers of what I need? I would appreciate it.
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Post by jag »

You can order the kit at: http://www.techedge.com.au/vehicle/wbo2/default.htm

They are about to take orders for fully assembled kits then all you need to get is the sensor (honda part# 36531-P07-003). I got mine from www.partsbin.com

fully assembled the display and wb kits cost $269 (US)
you can also just buy the fully assembled WB kit for $109 (US)
the display is useful if you want to use the WB without attaching it to the hondata.


-Jeremy
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Post by Aspirate »

I have some questions while we're in the subject of Wideband O2 systems

If I dont have hondata yet.. and I'm OBD1 (w/ single factory O2 sensor), will a Wideband O2 system replace the stock O2? and will the ECU be able to read signal from that Wideband O2? or
Would I have to weld another bung for the Wideband O2 and use it for display purposes only (cant use it for ecu tuning unless you have a standalone)?
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Post by AndyE »

jag wrote:I got it for $144 shipped from techedge in australia. The sensor was about $130. So, about $300 total after I bought a cables for it.
This is a neat project, but I have a question...where did you get the sensor for $130? The Parts Bin doesn't list that part number in their online catalog, they say "call for pricing and availability". Hparts.com sells it, but for $251...

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Post by jag »

I actually just looked back at my receipt from partsbin.com and found that the sensor from them cost $117.75. For some reason they don't show the price on their site anymore.
Strange.
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Re: Which wideband O2 kit works best with my Hondata 4b?

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jag wrote:I have the techedge kit. I love it. You can even get it assembled now with a case and everything. You can't beat the price and it seems to work great. It agrees with the dyno dynamics wb on the dyno that I go to.
It was easy to interface, I just took the connector off of an old O2 sensor for my car and connected it to the wideband. It's plug and play although you do have to set up the voltage->lambda mapping in the prefs.

-Jeremy
Jag I was wondering if the techedge wideband kit would work on my 1993 Honda Prelude Vtec. I have the Stage 4 package. Also, do you know of any guess running a turbo on their 4th or 5th Gen Prelude Vtec? Thank.
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Post by jag »

The DIY WB will work on any car. You will probably just need a different connector to plug it into the factory harness. You could probably find one at a junkyard.

When I want to tune my car I remove the front sensor (the one before the Cat) and replace it with the wideband sensor. I connect the interface box to the battery and plug the sensor into the box and plug the box into where the stock sensor was plugged in. Then I start up romeditor and it starts hilighting the fuel map with the lambda values. I did have to change the table for the transfer function from voltage -> lambda in the preferences but that was about it. It works beautifully.

If I want I can also plug the display that I have into the diy wb box and it will display the A/F ratio on the display, I use that for tuning my brother's car (a Mitsu Galant VR-4 with a haltech).

-Jeremy
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Post by Islander »

jag wrote:The DIY WB will work on any car. You will probably just need a different connector to plug it into the factory harness. You could probably find one at a junkyard.

When I want to tune my car I remove the front sensor (the one before the Cat) and replace it with the wideband sensor. I connect the interface box to the battery and plug the sensor into the box and plug the box into where the stock sensor was plugged in. Then I start up romeditor and it starts hilighting the fuel map with the lambda values. I did have to change the table for the transfer function from voltage -> lambda in the preferences but that was about it. It works beautifully.

If I want I can also plug the display that I have into the diy wb box and it will display the A/F ratio on the display, I use that for tuning my brother's car (a Mitsu Galant VR-4 with a haltech).

Dude where do you live? The plug you are referring too is the plug my factory O2 sensor uses?

-Jeremy
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Post by jag »

Yes, it is the factory O2 sensor plug. I got it off of an old sensor from my car. I just replaced the sensor and cut the connector off of the old one. I put a resistor on the heater wires to convice the ECU that the heater was still there and connected the other two wires to my WB.

I live in Watertown, Mass.


-Jeremy
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Post by Islander »

jag wrote:Yes, it is the factory O2 sensor plug. I got it off of an old sensor from my car. I just replaced the sensor and cut the connector off of the old one. I put a resistor on the heater wires to convice the ECU that the heater was still there and connected the other two wires to my WB.

I live in Watertown, Mass.


-Jeremy
How many wires does the wideband O2 sensor have? My Prelude has 3 wires I think. What type of resistor did you use exactly? Thanks.
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Post by jag »

The sensor itself is 5 wires with a 7 pin connector (the extra two are for a calibration resistor). But the sensor plugs into the DIY-WB box which has 2 wires as an output (ground and signal).
I don't remember what value resistor I used for the connector. It says what to use in the Hondata manual.

-Jeremy
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