P0123 TPS High Voltage Question
P0123 TPS High Voltage Question
getting the above fault, but only on wot, has been fine for several hours running
Just changed the TB for one fitted with another TPS, and still get the fault
TPS values read and seam stable
OEM loom to ecu, all looks good and i cannot get the fault to apear by moving the wiring/connectors ect
Is this now down to wiring ? or could it be something else
About to take the car to be mapped after an intake and exhaust change,
K20A2 KPro
Just changed the TB for one fitted with another TPS, and still get the fault
TPS values read and seam stable
OEM loom to ecu, all looks good and i cannot get the fault to apear by moving the wiring/connectors ect
Is this now down to wiring ? or could it be something else
About to take the car to be mapped after an intake and exhaust change,
K20A2 KPro
PRA ecu Kpro Sn 01443
Soft ver 1.4.1.0
UK EP3 K20A with DC5/PRC Inlet manifold 66mm js racing TB (fault was same on Standard TB, PRB manifold and different TPS)
Custom exhaust manifold and backbox
fitted in a lotus elise, i fitted this last year, OEM wiring loom to the ECU, fault came up last year, was hoping changing the TPS/TB would cure it
Soft ver 1.4.1.0
UK EP3 K20A with DC5/PRC Inlet manifold 66mm js racing TB (fault was same on Standard TB, PRB manifold and different TPS)
Custom exhaust manifold and backbox
fitted in a lotus elise, i fitted this last year, OEM wiring loom to the ECU, fault came up last year, was hoping changing the TPS/TB would cure it
The common causes of TPS errors (apart from aftermarket throttle bodies and aftermarket TPS sensors):
- TPS sensors go bad, especially in vehicles with a lot of engine vibration. Solution is to replace with a known good OEM sensor.
- Wiring in the engine wiring loom breaks near the TPS connector, usually from bending fatigue. In this case it is difficult to diagnose because the wire will break inside the insulation, and so will work until you place the engine under vibration / stretch the wire.
- TPS sensors go bad, especially in vehicles with a lot of engine vibration. Solution is to replace with a known good OEM sensor.
- Wiring in the engine wiring loom breaks near the TPS connector, usually from bending fatigue. In this case it is difficult to diagnose because the wire will break inside the insulation, and so will work until you place the engine under vibration / stretch the wire.
Hondata
Ok fitted a good known working TPS, Both have been OEM Honda TPS
Have been through the wiring, all looks and tests good and is clipped up around the engine as per OEM brackets, is heavily protected with heat shrink and flexi plastic tubes through the car
pulling wiggling the cables shows no fault readings
The fault is only trigged when 100% throttle is reached
I did the conversion last year, and only have had it finished enough to get the car mapped (this friday) car runs fine but as its not mapped so i kept off the 100% throttle usage, and did several thousand miles last year ok, Thought it was the TPS, changed it last weekend and still have the same problem
Ive read the TPS settings and up loaded them to the ECU
Have been through the wiring, all looks and tests good and is clipped up around the engine as per OEM brackets, is heavily protected with heat shrink and flexi plastic tubes through the car
pulling wiggling the cables shows no fault readings
The fault is only trigged when 100% throttle is reached
I did the conversion last year, and only have had it finished enough to get the car mapped (this friday) car runs fine but as its not mapped so i kept off the 100% throttle usage, and did several thousand miles last year ok, Thought it was the TPS, changed it last weekend and still have the same problem
Ive read the TPS settings and up loaded them to the ECU
Hondata wrote:In that you can start by telling us the error code and providing a datalog of error occuring.
P0123 TPS High Voltage,
(ECU in boot, currently dont have a long enough USB cable to reach the passenger area of the lotus, to get a datalog, ecu before memory addition)
As you are asking for a DataLog, does this mean there is something that could be causing this in the ECU settings or setup, my tuner briefly mentioned that there may be something he can set or change, ive already told him ive calibrated the TPS settings, he mentioned codes or coding???
If its just as case of settings these will be all changed on friday, as i am just running a base map with tweaks
I dont have any information on the previous owners car config, if he was using a different TPS, or if its possible to change these settings
Ok well ive fixed it, user error on my part
On the Lotus ecu to set the TPS high and low points you just move the TB through its movement and the ECU picks up the max and min
With the hondata you have to hold the TB at full throttle to read the upper setting, or it defaults to the lowest upper setting which is 60% when you "read" the settings
On the Lotus ecu to set the TPS high and low points you just move the TB through its movement and the ECU picks up the max and min
With the hondata you have to hold the TB at full throttle to read the upper setting, or it defaults to the lowest upper setting which is 60% when you "read" the settings
Appreciate the closure on this. So many times people post problems but never say what root cause was.S2Dave wrote:Ok well ive fixed it, user error on my part
On the Lotus ecu to set the TPS high and low points you just move the TB through its movement and the ECU picks up the max and min
With the hondata you have to hold the TB at full throttle to read the upper setting, or it defaults to the lowest upper setting which is 60% when you "read" the settings
Mid-engine K24 turbo Locost, http://www.midlana.com
kb58 wrote:Appreciate the closure on this. So many times people post problems but never say what root cause was.S2Dave wrote:Ok well ive fixed it, user error on my part
On the Lotus ecu to set the TPS high and low points you just move the TB through its movement and the ECU picks up the max and min
With the hondata you have to hold the TB at full throttle to read the upper setting, or it defaults to the lowest upper setting which is 60% when you "read" the settings
I thought it may help in case anyone does the same, there are a few threads with people having this error but no answers as to whats caused it, Kpro is a product that appeals to DIY mechanics, but most of us are not experts, so may need to be pointed in the right direction
Also if there had been an answer for this i would have saved a large amount of money as i would not have bought a replacement TPS
Fault has not come up since the TPS values were set correctly
No way on here to PM/e-mail you, but I'll buy that TPS if you want to get some money out of it. Contact me through my sig if interested.
Mid-engine K24 turbo Locost, http://www.midlana.com