2013 si maps

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2013 si maps

Post by spyder0314 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:51 pm

Any plans on having maps for the 13 si other than the stock equivalent? I have an intake and flashpro and im running 10.14 rich at wot on stock calibration.

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Re: 2013 si maps

Post by Spunkster » Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:41 am

If you download the most recent beta version you will see that there are a number of calibrations that will work on a 2013.

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Re: 2013 si maps

Post by mikeos » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:25 pm

im having problems seeing any different calibrations other then stock.. I thought I would see something that would be similar to the mods I added.. I have a 2012 civic si..

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Re: 2013 si maps

Post by spyder0314 » Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:03 am

The only cal is see for 13 si is the stock equivalent for stock310 injctors. I see reflash but thats for the 2012, i dd compare the 2 cal and they look identical.

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Re: 2013 si maps

Post by Spunkster » Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:45 am

Download the most recent beta version of software from the downloads section of the website.

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Re: 2013 si maps

Post by spyder0314 » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:56 am

i got the new beta which is the 1.5.6 and all the calibrations i see for the 13 si on stock injector is the stock equivalent and the 2012 stock reflash. Does the 2012 stock reflash work as well in the 2013? I compared both the stock equivalent and the reflash and all i see the difference are just fuel and rev limits. Cams and ignitions are the same for both.

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Re: 2013 si maps

Post by Spunkster » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:36 pm

They are all interchangeable. YOu can use 2012 calibrations in a 2013.

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Re: 2013 si maps

Post by battlemike » Thu May 15, 2014 10:46 pm

Spunkster wrote:Download the most recent beta version of software from the downloads section of the website.
I know I'm waking the dead here...but there is zero difference in the "Hondata reflash" of the 2012 and 2013 stock equivalent. Unless you count the rev limiter being raised. I would think you guys would have the hondata reflash available for the flashpro...especially since it costs more.

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Re: 2013 si maps

Post by Hondata » Fri May 16, 2014 6:10 am

1. There are exactly the same number of starting calibrations available for the 2013 as the 2012 Si (currently 8 for each).
2. Between the 'stock equivalent' and 'reflash' calibrations the fuel, ignition, knock retard, knock ignition limit, overrun fuel, rev limit and throttle tables are different.
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Re: 2013 si maps

Post by battlemike » Fri May 16, 2014 7:22 pm

Hondata wrote:1. There are exactly the same number of starting calibrations available for the 2013 as the 2012 Si (currently 8 for each).
2. Between the 'stock equivalent' and 'reflash' calibrations the fuel, ignition, knock retard, knock ignition limit, overrun fuel, rev limit and throttle tables are different.
not from what I'm seeing. I looked at both and there is no difference. Perhaps this wasn't caught and has continued on during the upgrades. I'm not the only one seeing this.

I uninstalled flashpro manager and reinstalled it...they are both the same. Unless I need to look at something else? I was looking at the tables for low/high on fuel, ignition and cam...all were the same for the reflash and stock equivalent.

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Re: 2013 si maps

Post by battlemike » Fri May 16, 2014 8:21 pm

Okay I did a complete analysis of both the calibrations and put the screen shots in pdf format. I have it set to show the first table of ignition of the stock, then the reflash, so on and so on.

I found a couple of small minor differences, which imo...are nothing major.

The only changes shown are (which are very minor and only under fuel tables):

1. Under the low WOT lambda table for columns 8, 9, 10 at 4000 rpms. Stock shows each of those to be 12.46, while the reflash shows 11.69.

2. Under the high WOT lambda table for columns 9, 10 at 7000 rpms. Stock shows 12.06, while reflash shows 12.46.

So other than that and the fact that the rev limit was increased...those are the only differences. How you guys think that is a reflash is beyond me. Very disappointing. Like I said, I'm glad I have Vit that will tune my car. But for those that order flashpro and don't have the money/time to get it tuned yet...that's a rip off. At least give them the supposed reflash you guys made.

Below is the comparison. Please school me completely if I am wrong, but I don't see how I am. I will have zero problems admitting I'm wrong. But I've run the reflash and it feels practically the same as the stock tune.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/cu9evn5feo1wj6u/compare.pdf

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Re: 2013 si maps

Post by battlemike » Fri May 16, 2014 9:10 pm

Just did an analysis of the throttle parameters, etc...no difference there either. I'm awaiting for you guys to correct me.....................................

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Re: 2013 si maps

Post by Hondata » Sat May 17, 2014 2:50 pm

I've had to delete your last post - we will not tolerate abuse on this forum.
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