on 8th gen Accords and TSX cars this failur appears once a monthVitViper wrote:We need P0128 disable on the 06-11 Civic Si calibrations -- I have customers throwing that code with low temp thermos (and my car has a low temp as well).
FlashProManager V1.8.3 beta (Bluetooth)
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Re: FlashProManager V1.8.2 beta (Bluetooth)
Thanks!Hondata wrote:We have not changed the race calibration code for the last year or so. You should be aware that this is a 'race' calibration, and the fuel level / economy will not work correctly on the FN2. Use a FN2 calibration with Speed/Density tables enabled.sass wrote:Hondata ver. 1.6.3 fuel level in racing calibration was working fine on dash of FN2. In ver 1.8.1 and 1.8.2 fuel level fails + - 15-20
We do not use turbo mafs on FN2, that is why our options is limited - only race calibration
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Re: FlashProManager V1.8.2 beta (Bluetooth)
Why do people use a low temperature thermostat? Is it to reduce knock?VitViper wrote:We need P0128 disable on the 06-11 Civic Si calibrations -- I have customers throwing that code with low temp thermos (and my car has a low temp as well).
Hondata
Re: FlashProManager V1.8.2 beta (Bluetooth)
Why can't the FN2 calibrations be used? What do you mean 'turbo mafs'?sass wrote:We do not use turbo mafs on FN2, that is why our options is limited - only race calibration
Hondata
Re: FlashProManager V1.8.2 beta (Bluetooth)
I use the race calibration because it has boost control in assists. There is no it in AFM calibrations.Hondata wrote:Why can't the FN2 calibrations be used? What do you mean 'turbo mafs'?sass wrote:We do not use turbo mafs on FN2, that is why our options is limited - only race calibration
I mean the caliblation without AFMWhat do you mean 'turbo mafs'?
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DynoWheel = 472kW / 589 N.m
HRX One Mile Challenge = Max Speed 282km
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DynoWheel = 472kW / 589 N.m
HRX One Mile Challenge = Max Speed 282km
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Re: FlashProManager V1.8.2 beta (Bluetooth)
I wanted to comment on that myself, since cold thermostats actually reduce performance for most cars. I think most of them are purchased by uninformed performance enthusiasts just because "performance companies" like Mugen and J's racing sell them as "performance parts". If I could find a thermostat that was 10 degrees *hotter*, I'd get one.Hondata wrote: Why do people use a low temperature thermostat? Is it to reduce knock?
'06 NFR S2000
Re: FlashProManager V1.8.2 beta (Bluetooth)
Seems just because it's another part they can buy... Moot discussion, I have one guy who popped that coded with the stock thermo on the Civic cal. I have looked over his car and there's nothing wrong with his coolant system, runs OEM temps -- but still popped that code (and wasn't popping it on the OEM map).Hondata wrote:Why do people use a low temperature thermostat? Is it to reduce knock?VitViper wrote:We need P0128 disable on the 06-11 Civic Si calibrations -- I have customers throwing that code with low temp thermos (and my car has a low temp as well).
On my car I run it because I don't like seeing 210-220* ECT's on the dyno even with my big custom aluminum radiator (wastes my time waiting on cooldown) and the track after hard pulls -- sits around 180-185 on the dyno which is just perfect (with the Spoon thermo), same at the track.
Re: FlashProManager V1.8.2 beta (Bluetooth)
ROFL. That's a really bad idea.Gernby wrote: I wanted to comment on that myself, since cold thermostats actually reduce performance for most cars. I think most of them are purchased by uninformed performance enthusiasts just because "performance companies" like Mugen and J's racing sell them as "performance parts". If I could find a thermostat that was 10 degrees *hotter*, I'd get one.
Re: FlashProManager V1.8.2 beta (Bluetooth)
@Hondata:
Confirmed:
- 2 customers with stock thermostat throwing that code (both cars I worked on in person -- there's nothing wrong with the cooling system, ECT's were solid on the dyno).
- 1 customer with low temp thermo
All 3 popped P0128
Confirmed:
- 2 customers with stock thermostat throwing that code (both cars I worked on in person -- there's nothing wrong with the cooling system, ECT's were solid on the dyno).
- 1 customer with low temp thermo
All 3 popped P0128
Re: FlashProManager V1.8.2 beta (Bluetooth)
Start a thread somewhere, and we'll discuss it. Even Honda went to a ~10 deg F hotter thermostat for the last few years of the S2000.VitViper wrote:ROFL. That's a really bad idea.Gernby wrote: I wanted to comment on that myself, since cold thermostats actually reduce performance for most cars. I think most of them are purchased by uninformed performance enthusiasts just because "performance companies" like Mugen and J's racing sell them as "performance parts". If I could find a thermostat that was 10 degrees *hotter*, I'd get one.
'06 NFR S2000
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Your limited experience is showing -- I don't need start any thread anywhere to discuss that.Gernby wrote:Start a thread somewhere, and we'll discuss it. Even Honda went to a ~10 deg F hotter thermostat for the last few years of the S2000.VitViper wrote:ROFL. That's a really bad idea.Gernby wrote: I wanted to comment on that myself, since cold thermostats actually reduce performance for most cars. I think most of them are purchased by uninformed performance enthusiasts just because "performance companies" like Mugen and J's racing sell them as "performance parts". If I could find a thermostat that was 10 degrees *hotter*, I'd get one.
Re: FlashProManager V1.8.2 beta (Bluetooth)
Personal attacks are not acceptable - constructive posts only please.
In theory at 210 there should be no difference between a 160 and 180 thermostat, both being open. However, since we're measuring the temperature near the head outlet and the thermostat regulates the coolant going into the engine, I suspect that the temperature gradient across the engine shifts with the different thermostats. Without measuring each it's all guess work, but we don't recommend low temperature thermostats.
In theory at 210 there should be no difference between a 160 and 180 thermostat, both being open. However, since we're measuring the temperature near the head outlet and the thermostat regulates the coolant going into the engine, I suspect that the temperature gradient across the engine shifts with the different thermostats. Without measuring each it's all guess work, but we don't recommend low temperature thermostats.
Hondata
Re: FlashProManager V1.8.2 beta (Bluetooth)
In either case I don't want to discuss theory... just want to get a toggle for the P0128 code, as even customers with the OEM thermo are popping it for some reason, and I can find no fault in their cooling system -- both the stock thermo cars I worked on in person, had on the dyno, and the car ran consistent ECT's. I suspect maybe the secondary ECT is just faulty maybe... but I have it disabled since I switch to the primary for fan control.
Re: FlashProManager V1.8.2 beta (Bluetooth)
Up to a count of 4 customers popping P0128.
Looks like a couple of them have big aftermarket aluminum radiators... could be something to do with it.
Looks like a couple of them have big aftermarket aluminum radiators... could be something to do with it.
Re: FlashProManager V1.8.2 beta (Bluetooth)
+ 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000VitViper wrote:In either case I don't want to discuss theory... just want to get a toggle for the P0128 code, as even customers with the OEM thermo are popping it for some reason, and I can find no fault in their cooling system -- both the stock thermo cars I worked on in person, had on the dyno, and the car ran consistent ECT's. I suspect maybe the secondary ECT is just faulty maybe... but I have it disabled since I switch to the primary for fan control.
We changed thermostat,radiator, sensors ECT1,2 with OEM on all TSX cars. I do not know what to do next.
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DynoWheel = 472kW / 589 N.m
HRX One Mile Challenge = Max Speed 282km
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DynoWheel = 472kW / 589 N.m
HRX One Mile Challenge = Max Speed 282km
Known as Sniper