FlashProManager V3.1.1

FlashPro Manager software
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Re: FlashProManager V3.1.1

Post by Gernby » Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:06 am

I recently purchased a FlashPro for my '18 Accord 2.0T w/ 10AT, and have noticed a few issues.

* Datalogs recorded on the FlashPro itself do not include VTS. That parameter only appears if datalogged by FPM
* Datalogging on the FlashPro itself doesn't stop when the car is turned off, and they don't appear in FPM until it's unplugged / replugged
* Sensor overlay view in FPM doesn't seem to work.
* Stage 1 and 2 produce consistent knock counts driving conservatively on 93 octane (my car is 100% stock). (datalogs attached)

For the last one, I noticed that some knock-related tables appear to be disabled or partially disabled (Knock Air Limit, TC Max Boost, Ignition Air Temp Comp). Was that intentional?

Also, I'd like to make a request that I've brought up a couple times before. With so many additional parameters being captured in the datalogs in the newer cars, it really seems that the datalogging strategy needs to be refined a bit. I'm able to get 27 samples per second from my '08 S2000, which is sufficient for tuning, but the Accord is only giving 10 samples per second. Could we please try decreasing the delay between PID requests OR allow the user to de-select some parameters that aren't wanted?
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'06 NFR S2000

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Re: FlashProManager V3.1.1

Post by Gernby » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:12 am

If it helps, I've attached a similar datalog of the stock equivalent tune for comparison.
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Re: FlashProManager V3.1.1

Post by Hondata » Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:26 pm

- Datalog VTS - we are looking at
- FP Datalogging not switching off - I think this is because the ECU stays powered up for some time after the ignition is switched off
- Sensor overlay - already fixed
- Knock - seems ok. The knock control is in the 50% range which is fine.
- Knock ign limit table - should be stock
- TC limits & max boost - should be higher than stock
- Datalog rate - this is a different ECU from the S2000. The delay between datalog packet requests is already zero. The problem is that the ECU is not designed to respond to the requests very quickly.
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Re: FlashProManager V3.1.1

Post by Hondata » Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:17 pm

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Re: FlashProManager V3.1.1

Post by Gernby » Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:34 pm

Hondata wrote:
Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:26 pm
- Datalog VTS - we are looking at
- FP Datalogging not switching off - I think this is because the ECU stays powered up for some time after the ignition is switched off
- Sensor overlay - already fixed
- Knock - seems ok. The knock control is in the 50% range which is fine.
- Knock ign limit table - should be stock
- TC limits & max boost - should be higher than stock
- Datalog rate - this is a different ECU from the S2000. The delay between datalog packet requests is already zero. The problem is that the ECU is not designed to respond to the requests very quickly.
I noticed that VTS does show up in the datalog when I export to CSV, but it's just not showing up in FPM.

Left 4 columns of Knock air limit are all set to 1600, which seems to disable its function

All cells in the TC max boost tables are set to 3.2, which seems to disable its function

Any chance we could have an option to NOT datalog the traction control stuff?
'06 NFR S2000

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Re: FlashProManager V3.1.1

Post by Gernby » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:28 pm

I started to post this in the Accord 2008+ sub-forum, but decided that it might be better in the "beta" thread where it could be flushed out...

I did some more testing with 93 octane on the Return To Stock tune AND stage 1 tune tonight, and confirmed that the stock tune has more consistent air and fuel parameters than the Stage 1 and Stage 2 calibrations in the 2500 - 3500 RPM range. It seems that there is some sort of resonance going on that causes AFM, AFCMD, WGCMD, MAP, and INJ to bounce around in that RPM range. I've attached datalogs from the RTS and stage 1 calibration.
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Stage1Resonance.jpg
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Re: FlashProManager V3.1.1

Post by Ramon312 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:03 pm

my car has a race calibration since the last dyno tuned. last days i downloaded the last beta update and the flashpro says a message about the race calibration was not support. why?

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